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Bill Smedick appeared on a recent episode of the Leadership Educator Podcast with former Gary Laben Lecturer Kathy Allen. The pair discussed “how a chance meeting at NACA and a follow-up phone call started a nearly 40-year mentor-mentee relationship,” as well as “communities of practice” among leadership educators.
Listen to the episode here.